Growing Together
Step into a virtual garden of spiritual growth and community connection with the "Growing Together" podcast. This podcast is a nurturing space for individuals seeking to deepen their faith, cultivate relationships, and explore the boundless beauty of a shared spiritual journey.
Each episode of "Growing Together" is a breath of fresh air, where Pastor Michael, Syd, Nic, Pastor Holly, and Pastor Roger try to navigate the twists and turns of life while staying rooted in faith. Their warm and inviting presence makes you feel like you're sitting in a cozy living room, engaged in a heartfelt conversation with old friends.
Diving into topics ranging from personal growth and self-care to building resilient relationships and fostering a sense of community, the podcast aims to equip listeners with the tools to nurture their faith in all aspects of life. Through scripture readings, open discussions, and interviews with experts in various fields, "Growing Together" provides a holistic approach to spiritual development.
Whether you're a lifelong believer, a seeker on the spiritual path, or simply someone curious about how faith can shape lives, "Growing Together" offers a welcoming haven for everyone. Tune in during your morning routine, while taking a leisurely stroll, or even during a quiet moment of reflection – the podcast fits seamlessly into your daily life.
Join the "Growing Together" community and embark on a journey of discovery, growth, and genuine connection. In a world that can sometimes feel disconnected, this podcast reminds us that nurturing our faith and cultivating meaningful relationships can lead to a life that's deeply fulfilling and spiritually abundant. Subscribe now to start your journey of growing together in faith and fellowship.
Growing Together
How Should We Care For the Environment? (and Other Random Conversations)
What if a spontaneous trip to Graceland could spark lifelong friendships and a trove of cherished memories? Our latest episode transports you to the heart of Elvis's world, where we reminisce about the magic of past Christmases, the thrill of surprise adventures, and even the peculiar antics that made our visits unforgettable. We recount how a chance encounter in the Jungle Room led to a cultural exchange with an Australian friend, and the unexpected twists, like a missing light bulb caper and culinary disappointments at the Heartbreak Hotel, that added flavor to our Graceland escapades.
But our journey doesn’t stop there. We uncover the unsettling world of body brokering within the United States funeral industry, starting from a conversation at a coffee club meeting that peeled back layers of conspiracy theories and unethical practices. This episode shines a light on the legal and moral complexities surrounding the sale of human body parts. With stories ranging from funeral home scandals to bizarre rug rumors, we engage in a candid exploration of an industry shrouded in secrecy and controversy, raising important questions about transparency and ethics.
Our conversation shifts again to tackle personal stories and environmental challenges, from relentless bedbug infestations to the skepticism around green energy solutions. We blend humor with reflection as we share anecdotes about childhood TV memories, bedtime routines, and the quirks of caffeine habits. Through it all, the episode remains a rich tapestry of humor, practicality, and thought-provoking discussions, inviting listeners to engage with the intricacies of daily life and the larger ethical questions that resonate with us all. Join us for an engaging listen that combines adventure, introspection, and a touch of nostalgia.
yeah, so if I ever get to go back to graceland, well, yeah, you gotta find a way to make that happen.
Speaker 2:Well, I could just go I mean it's whatever, but what's?
Speaker 3:what city is it in memphis, tennessee?
Speaker 1:but the problem with me going is it's not like I'm just going on the trip. I want to do all of the expensive tours, I want to do all of the stuff that I've never gotten to do and then like, what is your vacation money? Well, I was gonna say the problem isn't just that though it's the tours.
Speaker 1:I want to do all of the stuff that I've never gotten to do. Here's your vacation money. The problem isn't just that, though. It's the souvenirs I bring home with me, because now you can buy B&K jumpsuits at Graceland. They've got them on mannequins. I'll take that one.
Speaker 3:What if you waited a few years until Easton can go with you and can remember a little bit?
Speaker 1:Easton could go with me now and remember all of it. You think I know he could. That dude remembers everything. He remembers stuff from when he was a baby. My daughter was like that. Yeah, he remembers everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like to go during Christmas. Heck, I can barely remember.
Speaker 1:Only done that once Stole a light bulb. Don't tell anybody.
Speaker 4:You already told that story. Oh, did I?
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, out of the fixture. Uh, that's a really cool experience. Yeah, never been for his birthday, though. Never been for his birthday. I was disappointed in the uh because we stayed at the graceland hotel was it the guest house at the time or was it still um heartbreak hotel?
Speaker 2:I don't remember. I I kind of thought this was like a new hotel yeah, it was probably the guest house it was really cool, but and we ate at yeah, it was probably the guest house. It was really cool and we ate at the restaurant that was in the hotel. I don't think Elvis would have ate anything. It was so like over the top cuisine type.
Speaker 1:No, he wanted pork chops and collard greens there was nothing like that on the menu. It was just all real.
Speaker 2:It wasn't southern cooking, not good, no, it was not good and we were highly disappointed. Rich and greens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, I stayed. I so remember it's been 15 years since I've been there. I only ever stayed at the heartbreak hotel and at the time, whenever the heartbreak was there, it was across the street and behind the plaza. So Graceland was here. You would go directly across the street and it would be the plaza. That where the ticket booth was at and there were all of the shops were there, and then behind that was the heartbreak hotel. But when you were driving back there, you actually got stopped at the security gate and you had to give them your reservation number in order to get back to the hotel. And I remember one time now this was they gave us it wasn't stimulus money like during COVID, but they gave us a stimulus check of some sort way back in the day. You guys remember that Maybe, I don't know. I just know that they gave me money that I had nothing to do with.
Speaker 1:And so I went to Graceland on a whim, no joke. I decided I got in my car, buddy of mine. I was like hey, you want to go on a trip. He's like where are we going? I'm like I don't know yet. He's like well, what are you thinking? I'm like Memphis. He's like, let's go.
Speaker 1:And we just drove to Memphis. That was, that was what we did. So we pull up, the guys like, hey, what's your reservation number? Said we don't have rooms. He said the only room that they have left is a suite, and it's the jungle room suite. Do you want to bet I was in heaven in that room Green shag carpet, all the hardwood like the live edge table. I mean that place was legitimate. I met while we were there, so the lobby had like a. It was an open lobby, but they had a bar and then they had just like seating and so we were hanging out downstairs before we were headed out for the day and I met this lady. She was from Australia, her name is Lynn. Her and I are still friends to this day. We exchange Christmas cards, photos of my kids, like we're still friends, and she's like, oh, you're staying in the jungle room suite.
Speaker 3:So they came upstairs and we're hanging out Now. This is not a joke.
Speaker 1:I wish all of this was made up, but it's not. So we hung out in that suite for I can't tell you how long. And she goes. You know what I got to do something? She sends her husband back to her room. They come back with Australian cigarettes. Have you ever had an Australian cigarette? You ain't never smoked a cigarette like an Australian. Holy smokes. Those things are strong Like a Marlboro Red's got nothing on an Australian cigarette.
Speaker 3:So she wanted to smoke a cigarette in the jungle. Well, it was really just more about?
Speaker 1:no, it was more about, like, the exchange of culture, so like they were hanging out with us and they had never been to the United States before.
Speaker 3:It was their first time ever coming to the United States.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we just kind of hung out in the room. It was really fun. We had a great time. Oh my Great time.
Speaker 4:I hope she didn't think that all Americans are the way you are.
Speaker 1:That's why she's never been back to America.
Speaker 3:Lynn, if you're listening. We're sorry.
Speaker 1:No, they're wonderful people. Yeah, it could be her. We have her and her husband, david. He owned like a parcel service where they delivered packages and whatnot, and I love talking to her because she tells me fun things. Like it is so hot in the middle of Australia, you can't live there. So like they keep tearing down houses and building two houses in order for there to be enough housing for all of the people there. Because, like the middle is so hot, you physically can't live there. There's like it's just not populated in the center of Australia.
Speaker 3:Never knew that. Yeah, that's that, yeah, is the equator right there? That's what I was wondering I don't know.
Speaker 1:Also, and I'm sure you guys know this, but they celebrate Christmas in the summer months because they're below the equator, so they're the exact opposite of us, so they celebrate Christmas so they're below the equator.
Speaker 1:Yes, so they celebrate Christmas in the summertime and she will occasionally post pictures of the things that she finds in her garden, and I'm talking like lizards, like you have never seen before, spiders and snakes and huge critters, and she said that, like there are some seasons, you just don't go out after dark because you don't walk under a tree, because you don't know what's going to come out of that tree after you. This stuff is big and scary and gross, and people think koalas are cute too, and I guess they're not very nice.
Speaker 3:They're mean, they're mean.
Speaker 4:Mean little critters.
Speaker 5:They look super cute.
Speaker 1:That's the first mistake. It looks cute, you try to pet it and it gouges your eyeballs out.
Speaker 4:Claw you to death.
Speaker 1:Slowly but surely and that's the kickoff of tonight's episode we're gonna do a series just called attacked by, and we're gonna tell all of our stories about the things.
Speaker 3:I was attacked by a raccoon were you really? Yeah, like two and a half years ago on river road. So we named the raccoon river cause it was a little did you take it home?
Speaker 1:I took it home, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:Well, no one already attacked you.
Speaker 3:But then it escaped, like in the night. It was in a little cage and it was a baby one, and like it didn't have its mom. So, we stopped. And it bit me later when she says disappeared. That's with air quotes, by the way. No, I wish, I wish it would have been there that next morning, because then I wouldn't have necessarily needed shots that I had.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because they could have tested him yeah but he was, he was gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like, get me out of here.
Speaker 1:Yep well, they knew he was gonna cut. They were gonna cut his head off. Oh, last sunday we had a great conversation in the cafe prior to service starting, so 8 30 we do coffee club and we just kind of hang out. We talk about life, weird stuff, typically like conspiracy theories and like end times, just really weird stuff. And Sid sent me a podcast. I think you sent me the podcast. Well, we talked about Lysol, but that was not the conversation that I wanted to talk about. Yeah, body brokering, did you send me that?
Speaker 3:one about the funeral home. No, oh jeez, I sent you the Lysol one you got blamed for it.
Speaker 1:No, she got blamed for the Lysol one. No, the body brokering one. I don't know how I found it Anyhow, but body brokering is perfectly legal. So what happens a lot of times? Funeral homes. This has nothing to do with our topic tonight, but funeral homes will have you sign waivers and then they will sell your body parts. So for science, so like there may be a school.
Speaker 3:For science.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there may be a school looking for like dental schools will take heads for doing dental work and that's how they teach their students to do the dental work. And there are best practices and standard practices for body brokering, like shaving one's head before they mail it because that wait a minute, they're mailing this. Yes, yes, yeah I'm not making this up, it is. You google it in a box. Yeah, it's not quite like.
Speaker 3:No, I was gonna say I don't think, it's just like through the mail I think it's like dhl we do have cremated remains, that we deliver and like they have to tag, that yep you know, but human I've yeah, I've never delivered any, but I've seen people um deliver things and they'll have them a lot of the times like up yeah front with them like this is their last ride or something, and they deliver, kick them out in the mailbox deliver them to their loved one, yeah anyhow, body brokering perfectly legal in the united states, but the podcast was about a lady who did not do it quite so ethically.
Speaker 1:She it was called Mesa, something or other, and I wish I could remember and I always want to say Mesa Verde, but that is from Better Call Saul, which, as a Christian, don't watch that. I will admit that I did, but you should not.
Speaker 2:Do as I say, not as I do. You went ahead for the rest of us, right?
Speaker 1:yes, I watched it. I I previewed it. I am advocating that you not watch it anyhow. So she owned a funeral home and she offered like 800 cremations, which was dirt cheap, and this was a fairly poor town that she lived in and so a lot of people used her. But she always had you sign forms like blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:You would just sign and then what she would do is she would chop up your family members and ship them off to people and then, when you ask for their cremated remains back, you would get multiple people in your box ta-da, because the weight had to be a certain weight in order for it to shake out. But you get your little tag and you'd think it was your person and then they found out that she had been like. This is not I. I'm just telling you what the podcast said. I didn't see her do it, but she would use a sawzall, a chainsaw, whatever it took, to get the body parts off and then she would mail them to places that were requesting those body parts. When she finally got caught, they did DNA testing on all of the human cremains who would allow them to.
Speaker 1:So there were a lot of people who said yes there were some who said no, and they were finding three and four bodies inside of each of those boxes.
Speaker 2:So she was separating them deliberately.
Speaker 1:Well, because she couldn't deliver a full body back to you once. She sold your head and your arm and your leg or whatever.
Speaker 4:You had to weigh so much.
Speaker 1:The weight had to equal out to a certain amount. So what she would do is she had like a bucket of cinders and cat litter and weird stuff out back that she would just shake into your box of cinders and cat litter and weird stuff out back, that she would just shake into your box. And then she would also not keep the crematory clean. So she would put your body in there with maybe two or three other bodies and just sweep it out, put you in the box and send you back to your family.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 2:This sounds unethical to me. Yeah, that's my point.
Speaker 1:The fact that you don't get a license to do this.
Speaker 3:I was not responsible for that.
Speaker 1:I was obsessed with funeral home podcasts for a little while because we all know I like the funeral industry. But I think it's really fascinating to learn the stuff that they do. Like I could tell you stories. I'm not going to, but I could.
Speaker 2:Why does it have to be a certain weight?
Speaker 1:Because you weigh a certain amount. And so when I cremate you, you will come out a certain weight, and so if it doesn't match, it's a red flag immediately. So she knows that. So she's going to make you match to the best of her ability so that she's not getting busted.
Speaker 2:So is there a science behind it. Like I, weigh 170 pounds.
Speaker 1:I would assume probably so yeah.
Speaker 3:I bet Somehow. Or there's an average weight based on bone density and things like that, like you're a lot like a lot of liquid, right now but then like after you pass away and everything, yeah, then they yeah anyhow I will finally be skinny they melt it off.
Speaker 1:They just melt away. Bath, it just melts away. But uh, yeah, so uh, body brokering is a thing in the united states, but that was our conversation on sunday morning was about body brokering, and then lysol, which, which is a whole situation for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm actually happy with the fact that I'm 44 years old and never knew that.
Speaker 1:Never knew that I think I could have went another 44 years. Hey, I just learned Congratulations, roger, by the way, congratulations that the average lifespan of a man is only 77 years old in the United States. Now, how old are you?
Speaker 4:now I got three more years?
Speaker 5:Oh wait, so did it decrease. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 2:And then it's off to the choppers. Buddy, Seriously, I was told.
Speaker 1:Choppers. I was told that that's the average. What did it used to be? I don't know, but it has gone down.
Speaker 3:Don't know but that that it has gone down significantly. Really, yeah, it's gone down significantly. I believe that. Yeah, well, they say that our um life, what's that called our?
Speaker 4:expectancy yeah our life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they say it's like growing well, so not for men, apparently.
Speaker 1:Wow, apparently we do the all the stupid crap well seriously well work with you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know, I know right.
Speaker 1:Think about that, though. At 77, the new midlife crisis has like. I'm in it. That means I can buy all the jumpsuits and just call it a midlife crisis, right.
Speaker 3:No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1:Bummer, that's what I was hoping for.
Speaker 3:Huh, wow.
Speaker 1:So there's all that, just to say we've wasted 15 minutes of our listeners' time.
Speaker 2:We've got to warm them up, Right yeah right, I wish I could.
Speaker 1:I'm going to look for that podcast just so I could share it with everybody, because I think, honestly, you should listen to it. No, I thought, Beth, it's not graphic. No, no, it's not graphic, it's just very factual.
Speaker 5:I was just. My son just said that.
Speaker 1:I mean you got to me.
Speaker 5:He has those three condos. He thinks they just got wiped out.
Speaker 1:Oh no, Is it hitting? Right now no I thought it wasn't going to hit till overnight, I think a lot of the surges are already the way.
Speaker 5:It was pretty bad from the first one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, he said yeah my cousin has sent me some pictures. The ocean's looking pretty mean.
Speaker 5:He said, some pictures. The ocean's looking pretty mean. Was it Sarasota? They're at Sanibel.
Speaker 1:Poseidon is angry. Poseidon is angry no, it's probably King Triton because Ariel got legs and decided she wasn't going to be in the ocean no more. See, ariel, thanks a lot. You didn't show up for the family reunion. Alright, finally got to get an Apple podcast now.
Speaker 4:You watch way too many Disney.
Speaker 2:Blame my daughter, but anyway, I thought you had to be a special person to be a funeral director, something like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, didn't you? Are you going to go to school? It takes a special kind of a. Yeah, you do have to.
Speaker 2:Yes To be doing the Embalming and stuff. No, to be doing this business. You're talking about Body brokering.
Speaker 1:Anybody can do that. You can do it. You just have to find a way to get the body. I'm just saying there's no license to do it.
Speaker 2:There's not a person dead enough that I can take a chainsaw and do it.
Speaker 1:Well, my thing is especially when you do that line of work every day. How can you even possibly fathom cutting people up? And my thing is who's asking for arms and legs? That's just weird to me. Technology has gotten so good that surely we can create a latex head with teeth in there that you can poke around in.
Speaker 3:The problem is they don't want to spend money for that Right, yeah because it's cheap to just buy a head severed off of a dead body On the black market.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not on the black market, it's legal. It's legal. They can do this out in the open, do they?
Speaker 2:own arms and legs for prosthetics.
Speaker 1:No Well, maybe, I guess maybe they make molds out of them. I don't know. It's freaking weird. That's all I know. I'm not buying it.
Speaker 5:I think it's called Cover Up For the veins and things like that.
Speaker 3:Maybe I don't know so they'd have to refrigerate it when they send it right Just dry ice. Yeah, yeah, dry ice yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's called Cover Up. I'm it was legal. Why cover it up? Yeah, well, because she was hiding the fact that she, that she wasn't returning the bodies. That, and that's really what this whole podcast is about is about her and the funeral home, not so much about the body brokering. But you learn so much because you have to understand what she's doing in order to understand what was illegal about it. Yeah, what she was doing wasn't technically illegal, but the fact that she was not telling people that she was doing that.
Speaker 2:that was illegal Because they're family. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Well, you know they do that in Mexico, those people that want to get across the borders. They'll talk them into selling a kidney and they get into you know, not the best surgeons and they're selling a kidney for money to.
Speaker 4:I probably got a kidney floating around over there.
Speaker 5:I had my surgery in Tijuana.
Speaker 1:I can't find it. I'm going to find it for you. I'm going to find it for you.
Speaker 5:It's a wonder that year I wasn't under major investigation. I had been in Haiti in December and Tijuana in January.
Speaker 1:It's called Cover Up Body Brokers. You have to listen to it. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:Well, I know one person is going to listen to it. I'm telling you well, I know one person is going to listen to it margie. Yes, yes, thank you, margie, is that?
Speaker 3:one episode.
Speaker 2:No, it's, it's a, it's a whole season.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a season I'm telling you to hear about it.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, listen to, because you'll be fascinated with how much stuff that somebody can get away with, like she got away with so much before they ever did anything to her, because she was like a pillar in the community and she always sponsored a t-ball team and donated money for this and donated money for that. Everybody trusted her, everybody thought she was on the up and up and it was one of her like pr people that ended up like starting to squeal on her and then her mom worked there and they would get into like physical altercations over the the handling of the bodies and it was. It was a whole situation.
Speaker 1:It's, I'm telling you, it's amazing the handing of the body yes okay so how does being a christian impact you, how you care?
Speaker 4:for the environment.
Speaker 1:There was also a whole. Do you guys remember the cover-up of the funeral home in new york that, uh, their crematory was actually broken and they were just like burying the bodies in the backyard. They got busted because somebody's dog dug up a body part and dragged it out to them and they were given ground up chicken bones and kitty litter and ash and things like that.
Speaker 4:That wasn't too long ago.
Speaker 1:No, not at all. Not at all. Another thing you should never watch is the show called Six Feet Under, although you do learn a lot about the funeral home industry. But don't watch it. I watched that one before I was saved. I tried to watch it again, couldn't do it.
Speaker 3:Did you guys hear about the rug in Reynoldsburg?
Speaker 1:I did. I don't know. I just know that there was a rug buried.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and know, I just know that there was a rug buried, yeah, and they were like doing some landscaping, the homeowners and they dug just a I don't know a few inches I think, and they found a rug and they called the police and every actually no, they went on live first like tiktok, live, you know what? What should we do? And people are like call the police. So the police are coming, as they're still on live, what's up?
Speaker 1:Did they know that there was something in it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Okay or no?
Speaker 1:See, my understanding was just that they saw a rug and then it's assumed there was a body rolled in a rug.
Speaker 3:It looked like there might be something in it by the sounds of it, and they brought dogs and everything and the dogs were sniffing like they were marking and stuff, but there was nothing. Apparently, however, dogs can smell, at least like up to 15 feet under.
Speaker 1:Yes, but I'm also told that cadaver dogs aren't accurate.
Speaker 3:Yes, I've heard that too.
Speaker 1:They can't actually smell dead bodies. What they smell and I don't remember what it is they smell a chemical that your body emits when you die. But there's no science behind, like if you've been there for three years, that dog may never find you. You could be there for a month, that dog will never find you so like there's some, but that's, they have dogs that smell bed bugs. Did you know that? That's bs too, like a dog that smells, but come on hotel industry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm like come on that, ain't?
Speaker 1:that? Ain't a thing. You know how I know. Know, when somebody's got bed bugs, you see them. That's when you know, that freaks me out what bed bugs Listen. I have rolled around in rooms. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me a bit, not even a little bit. You know how you can get faced with infectious disease and not really blink. Somebody could poop on you and you don't blink Me. On the other hand, I'm like bedbugs, no big deal.
Speaker 5:Well, I think what gets me the most is like you go to a room and you find bedbugs and you're like we're full, there's nothing we can do. Yeah, we check you out. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll give you your money back. You can leave. But yeah, yeah, no, we would never do that. We would never let somebody stay. If we like, if we figured it out, if we knew. But I'll be honest with you, even in my line of work with high end hotels and high end cabins, you get them. There's nothing you can do about it. We actually got to the point where we went and bought our own heat treat equipment so we could just take care of them ourselves. And I'm telling you what you want to talk about science, that there's a science behind that. But Holy smokes, you don't want to go in those units. Once you've heated them, it takes your breath away. They get so hot 130 degrees and I'm talking that's in the corners.
Speaker 1:A lot of times we don't leave any of the leather furniture in there when we do that stuff. If it's genuine leather. It's worse on the cabin-style units because the chinking that you put in between the wood beams will dry out and starts to split. So you have to fix a lot of that. Uh, we have had it warp lvt floors before. I mean, yeah it'll, it'll wreck a unit.
Speaker 5:But I mean, I know, like we have patients which we know, have you know, we schedule them the last appointment of the day. Yep, yeah, and they, as soon as they get off that elevator, we're booked into a room.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 5:We're not letting them sit out in that waiting room and then that room is closed.
Speaker 1:My wife, so it's heated Used to manage an apartment complex in Denison. I won't name the apartment complex, no. But there were always bedbugs there. There was one lady and I'll never forget this as long as I live. My wife came home and she's like hey, so-and-so has bedbugs again. She said you would open the door and you could scoop them up in your hand.
Speaker 4:There were so many, wow.
Speaker 1:And so they would take her out, treat the bedbugs. They'd bring the dog in first. I'm like you can see them. Why do you need the dog? I can tell you from three towns away that they've got bed bugs. So they would take her out. She would go stay with family. They would treat the apartment and they would treat the two beside it, the three above, the three below Because they just move right, so they just run. They'll go right through the electricals, right. So they would make sure that they treated all of that and they did a fine job. And the bed bugs would be gone and and nobody else would get them. And then they'd bring the lady back. They'd put her back in her apartment and within a week she'd have them again. Do you know why? Because the family had. No, they were living in a freaking wheelchair. Yeah, and they wouldn't treat the wheelchair, so they would just take her out.
Speaker 1:So they're like crawling in her hair and on her body, absolutely not seen that, Like they're physically there are so many of, and they would just put her back in the apartment and she would get them again. Yep, and it was the policy of the company. They treated the bedbugs. They paid for the treatment because they didn't want them to continue to be a problem. So the company knew, like this is a low-income property, Like if we don't pay for it they can't afford to, and we're always just going to have them. Well, guess what? Couldn't get rid of them.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's what worries me with having rentals so single dwelling, you can say, okay, it's your fault, but if you have more than that you have no idea.
Speaker 1:You have no idea.
Speaker 5:So then it falls back on the landlords to treat it.
Speaker 1:Well, that was an interesting job that she had and I did not like it at all, if I can be completely honest with you, and it was really mainly because the company was a little bit iffy to begin with. Like, their application was like 86 pages or something like that. It was asinine, it was absolutely asinine and nobody could ever get it right the first time. So then she would submit it and well, these pages were out of order, so they wouldn't accept it and she would have to put the pages back in order, refax it, send it back, and you could hold up the process for days. Simple mistakes Missed an initial here, missed a signature there, anyhow.
Speaker 1:There was a lady that lived there who was an alcoholic, and you know, everybody has their struggles right, like it's whatever. But this lady was an alcoholic and she had a dog in the house. Okay, well, she's not taking the dog outside, so the dog's inside doing its business on the floor, okay, and they had to do inspections monthly, quarterly, something like that. But anyhow, you'd knock and they she wouldn't answer, and so she'd have to hang a notice on the door and after three days she would just go in and she would knock and the lady be like I'm sick, you can't come in right now. And I was like I have to come in, I don't have a choice. She'd open the door and just smear poop across the carpet because the door is just dragging it across the floor. And then she would give her a notice like hey, you have to clean this up. If you don't, we're going to come and do it, but we're going to charge you for it.
Speaker 1:Lady, wasn't paying rent anyway. It didn't matter. It blows my mind that those things even exist. How did we get there? How? How did we end up there? We're 25 minutes in Bedbugs.
Speaker 1:Bedbugs yeah, bedbugs never bothered me.
Speaker 5:Taking care of the environment.
Speaker 1:Yes, taking care of the environment and all the creatures that got in the way. Yes, well, I will kill a bedbug, I will kill a frog. I will also kill a squirrel, by the way, if it runs out in front of me. I ain't dodging it. Sorry, oh me, I ain't dodging it. Sorry, oh, I'm not. You have to go home now. I'm sorry, but I'm not.
Speaker 2:It's hard like on the street that I by the way, how are there that many squirrels in dover dead on the road? I know I accidentally hit it I'm in trouble you killed it again again.
Speaker 5:Oh, I can remember hitting a possum one time and it upset me so bad the thought of it laying there. Yes, I ruined one. I turned around, you told us that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the first thing I ever hit, instant headache. I'm like oh.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it upset me so bad I did, I just turned around and I ran over it again. I couldn't stand the thought of it.
Speaker 1:The very first time I ever hit anything. I just got out, cut its body parts off and sold it. That's a joke.
Speaker 4:I never did that. It's a good thing. They didn't do that when they hit you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, kidding, right when I got hit by that car, got out, chopped off the body parts, sold them on eBay.
Speaker 2:It's fair play Recycle reuse reduce.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 5:Recycle, reuse.
Speaker 1:We don't want to waste these body parts.
Speaker 3:That's what happened when my grandma hit that one lady. They sold her body parts.
Speaker 1:Your grandma's.
Speaker 3:My grandma's body parts? No, but that's a true story. My grandma did hit someone.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:She felt terrible, yeah, terrible. It was like by the laundromat, the Claymont laundromat. She was taking Noah to Trenton, I believe.
Speaker 1:I remember that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, was taking noah to trenton, I believe early. I remember that, yeah, and I mean it was. It was a person with disability, so they were walking when they shouldn't have been anyway, and yeah, yeah terrible, yeah, and that's stuff that you can't control.
Speaker 1:No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, but it's something that would haunt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, yeah, forever you would do yeah, and at that time she was still working where she retired from and you know there was a lot of people that she worked with, I mean the house that she worked at, like it was for people with disabilities, you know. So, I'm sure she was always being reminded of it.
Speaker 5:Yep.
Speaker 4:So, how do we care for the environment?
Speaker 1:y'all Killing them bedbugs, killing them bedbugs, killing them bedbugs. Uh, roger and I well more roger than me, but I complain about it. Enough that roger handles it.
Speaker 4:Roger cares for the environment by relocating groundhogs from the church yes, he does their church they're church groundhogs, so I take them to another church their church yeah we don't put them, not the one next door one? Yeah, no, and we drop them off in the field across the street, like it's.
Speaker 1:We don't put them at first, not the one next door, yeah no, and we drop them off in the field across the street, like it's not. They don't drop them off in their yard to tear up their yard.
Speaker 4:I take them up by my house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just drop them off.
Speaker 4:I put. They have a real nice field there and for them yeah so that's how we care for the environment.
Speaker 5:Are they six feet under?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:No, no, I let them go.
Speaker 1:The only time that we have ever threatened to kill an animal in the trap was the skunk, Because we didn't know what else to do. How are you going to let it out of there while it's alive With a Tyvek suit? I was going to say so. Roger put on his hazmat suit and went for it. You call Margie.
Speaker 5:She'll get sprayed If you throw something over it.
Speaker 1:I tried that, but the wind was blowing the day that we were doing it and so I had gone out, because it was right in front of the sidesteps. So I had gone out that door and tried to throw a blanket over it, but the wind blew it back and then it was like half on it and I was like well, I ain't going back out there to try to get it.
Speaker 1:I remember that Sunday that Remy got sprayed. All the kids are. You can smell it halfway through the building, Ross wants to run through here.
Speaker 5:Remy Tim Tim, Remy Tim Tim got sprayed.
Speaker 1:Awful. It was a terrible scene. It took days to get that smell out of the building Days. It was terrible, absolutely terrible.
Speaker 4:When I even trap coons at home with my chicken coop. I take them and I let them go.
Speaker 1:They're much happier, unless they're mean to me, and when they're mean, I'm sorry. Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 4:I really didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1:Nick's like I have to go home. Will you guys please stop?
Speaker 5:I have a groundhog that I feed and he is fat. He can't hardly waddle across the yard anymore.
Speaker 1:The dentist that I go to in Dover. They have a big field between them and the next building and so when you're getting your teeth cleaned you just lay there and you just watch the groundhogs play in the field. And I said to my hygienist one time I'm like man, we'd have a field day out here, like just target practice. Just they're so destructive, like they tear up everything. You should see the holes in the backyard from those groundhogs, like we're constantly trying to catch them because they just tear the place up yeah, I filled all of them in but one.
Speaker 4:I put the trap by it and that little sucker, he weaseled his way up, so I took, blocked him off, so now he's got to go in the trap and we've learned they're not very smart critters.
Speaker 1:They'll come right out of that home, pop right into the trap. They're not very smart critters. Oh man, I don't feel bad for him. Road trip. Okay, so I'm going to give an unpopular opinion, should I say it Go ahead. So can I? I'm going to give an unpopular opinion, should I say it.
Speaker 4:Go ahead. I told you earlier, you thought it, so you might as well say it.
Speaker 1:Well, here's the thing. This is not going to be a popular opinion Maybe at this table, I don't know but it's not going to be a popular opinion with listeners. I don't believe in global warming. I think it's BS. I'm not saying that the globe's not getting warmer, but I believe it's cyclical. I believe it will get warmer and then it will get colder, and then it will get warmer and it will get colder. We have not ever seen it to know it right, like we don't know what's actually happening. I don't think that the world is going to come to an end because it's getting hot. I also think those of us who think that, like, green energy is going to become a thing, you're crazy. It's not going to kick off. It's almost impossible, right? Think about how many wind turbines you need to generate energy. You need fields and fields and fields of wind turbines to generate enough energy to power a city. Right, right Now. Hydroelectricity, maybe there's something there, but until we figured all of that out, guess what? Fossil fuels, baby, yeah, just the way it is.
Speaker 4:There's 13. I counted them tonight.
Speaker 1:Panels 13 rows of panels, I learned what that is. It is an independent energy company who is supplying. They lease the land from the high school and they are supplying energy to the high school To the high school.
Speaker 3:It said it was going to save like millions.
Speaker 1:Okay, now I'm going to call.
Speaker 3:BS and I didn't look into it, so I'm going to call BS.
Speaker 1:So I installed a million dollar wind turbine at one of my old hotels. A million dollars, one million dollars, okay, to put up a wind turbine. One million dollars, okay, to put up a wind turbine in philly, yes, okay. So, seriously, it was a yeah, it was a cool million to build the turbine alone. And we also put solar panels on the back side of the building. There was and I I think it's like three panels shy of an acre or something like that, in order to not have to have certain regulations.
Speaker 1:Blah, blah, blah. Okay, you know how much money it saved me on my electric bill? Zero dollars. I was still paying an electric bill every month, and some of it was because really that wasn't an ideal place for a wind turbine. But solar panels you need so many to generate enough electricity. Not just that, but if you don't install the power bank where you can store the energy to reuse it, like you're just using it live. Well, guess what, during the day, when the sun is out and you're sucking that up, there's nobody in the stinking hotel. You're not running anything, right? And then at night, when the place is full, well, guess what, I have no energy.
Speaker 3:I listened to a podcast like similar to that, about the power bank Save nothing.
Speaker 1:I thought there was battery banks in that one Nope banks in that one nope, no battery banks. We did not install battery banks when we did that.
Speaker 3:that was dumb I know but that was probably another million dollars, yeah and it was gonna have to be external.
Speaker 1:It wasn't gonna be able to be inside of you I think, I think they.
Speaker 4:it looks like they built another building back in behind if you look where, no Mm-mm.
Speaker 1:You're telling me I'm, I'm.
Speaker 3:There's a Times Reporter article from yesterday.
Speaker 1:About, about it, about that turbine, yeah, really.
Speaker 3:The high school one. Oh yeah, that's what I was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the about the solar panels.
Speaker 3:The solar panels.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, the only Times reporter article you ever saw about the wind turbine was when we almost got arrested for putting it up. Well, OK, so we'll tell the story.
Speaker 1:So my owner was incredibly wealthy, Money was no object to him and he put up the turbine because he wanted the tax credit. He actually built three at the same time, so it was three million dollars. We invested in clean energy the same time, so it was $3 million. We invested in clean energy and we went to the city of New Philadelphia and we asked for a building permit for the wind turbine.
Speaker 1:Now we knew that they did not want us to build a wind turbine. They were very clear with us that they were not going to allow us to build one. However, the director the city service director or whatever who issues the building permit said there are no ordinances regarding wind turbines, so I cannot issue you a permit. Got it? He wrote that in an email. We went to the state of Ohio, we got our building permit from the state of Ohio, we started building the turbine. We had the crane come and we were getting ready to start craning up the cap, the top of it. And here comes every police officer they had and this is not a joke in the whole town. I mean, we're in full blown like standoff mode. They've got the cap up in the air with the blades on it ready to put it on.
Speaker 3:Michael's, like I'm going to jail.
Speaker 1:And they said if you, if you move that crane, you're all going to jail. And I'm like, well, let's go, it's up in the air, I'll go to jail. But we can't not finish putting it up. And so we get into a heated debate and the police chief, Mr Goodwin, he was ready to seriously ready to put every one of us in jail, like there was not a joke to him. So we agreed that we would lower it back down, but they had to allow us to put a piece of plywood on the top, because if the winds were to come and funnel inside of that thing, it would just rip it apart, it was just going to make an absolute mess. So they did allow us to put a really thick piece of plywood on the top. They didn't try to put any of this in jail, but they sat there the remainder of the day to make sure that we didn't work on that turbine.
Speaker 1:And then we hired a high-profile lawyer from Cleveland who came down and just mopped the floor with them because they refused to issue us a permit. Oh, I would have sued for a cost of grain. Oh, dude, dude, they ate it, man. And you know what it cost us $250, the price of a permit. We paid $250, the price of the permit. And then they ended up I don't know what. They ended up giving my owners a settlement for it. But I mean we beat this, but. And then they ended up I don't know what they ended up giving my owners a settlement for it. But I mean we beat this.
Speaker 1:But the best part of that whole story is so we all had to go to court. So we roll up to court. We all park on the street. Every one of us come out to a parking ticket. Every one of us came out to a parking ticket. They said we were parked on the curb. Like if your tires touch the curb in Philly, they can write you a parking ticket oh my gosh yep, every one of us had a parking ticket.
Speaker 1:Oh, the best part of that story is the night that they threatened to arrest us all. Uh, our attorney talked to the police chief and he told him to get off of our property, like he had no right to be there. It was private property. He, they, we didn't want the vehicles parked on our property, yada, yada, yada. And he told the attorney that if there's an emergency, that they're not going to respond because we've ordered him off the property. And he said no, no, I'm telling you, you can't have officers sitting on the property. I'm telling you that if you want to sit on the street, that's fine, but we don't want you sitting on our property because it makes it look as though we're doing something illegal and we're not.
Speaker 1:Long and short. I went to the Times reporter gala that night. So I was at the performing art center and I get a phone call while I'm inside and it's my night auditor and there's a guy threatening him at the front desk and he called the police department and they refused to come. So I called the sheriff's department, the sheriff sent a deputy out and 15 minutes later I'm getting a call from the chief of police. We're so sorry, that was a mistake. We should have I said yes, you should have I said and you'll pay dearly for that.
Speaker 1:And I hung up on him and it was all part of the court case Like I mean, we just ate them alive Anyhow. Wow, city of New Philadelphia. What are you going to do? I hold no, like the mayor didn't want the turbine because it's unsightly. I'll agree, that thing is ugly as homemade sin when you drive by. But why make it difficult? Right, like it was going up one way or another. They didn't have any laws against it, so it was going to go up, but it just made them look bad.
Speaker 5:I had a friend. They had chicken barns and they put one up and they very rarely used it because he said the maintenance and repair was more expensive than what he saved yep.
Speaker 1:And so I'm not saying any of that to say that we shouldn't be caring for the environment, but I think the clean water, I think that's important. I don't think the trash that we throw in the ocean, that's a whole problem. But I don't think banning plastic straws is solving the problem. Right, no, like. And if california bans plastic bags and plastic straws is solving the problem? Right, right, no. And if California bans plastic bags and plastic straws, what good is that doing if everybody else is still using plastic bags and plastic straws?
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 1:And I feel like we try to justify what we're doing, but it doesn't make good sense and we're called to do what's right and what's good and what's just, but without logic it's just what. You know what I mean? It's wasteful. You're not really solving any problems. Have you ever gone to the zoo and they don't give you a lid or a straw, because people will drop them and then the animals get them and choke on them you ever? You ever seen that? Yeah, what about all the other crap people throw on the ground?
Speaker 1:yeah, right, yeah somebody help me understand this, because we're allowed to carry in candy bars and drop our wrappers on the ground. Yeah, right, yeah, somebody help me understand this. Because we're allowed to carry in candy bars and drop our wrappers on the ground and then the birds eat those and choke on those and like I don't understand the logic.
Speaker 4:Everybody just likes to make a rule.
Speaker 1:Yep, you can't outlaw stupid.
Speaker 4:You can't fix it either.
Speaker 5:Right, absolutely my. Can't fix it either.
Speaker 1:Right, absolutely. My wife's been trying for 13 years Epic fail.
Speaker 2:Well, I think, in one way or another, god has always given humans, because we're, you know, we're the stewards of the earth. We're supposed to take care of. Take care of everything. That's one of our main purposes.
Speaker 5:You reading my notes, I know my Bible A little bit. That's funny.
Speaker 2:But so I think essentially, yeah, he gave us everything we needed to take care of the earth from the beginning. But us, being humans, we just can't be satisfied with that.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's the whole problem we keep creating things.
Speaker 1:Well, our nature, the fleshly nature, is to be sinful, and so we do things, we create things, and again, it's all about that instant gratification. You know what I mean. Like how many of us drink from glass now? Most of us drink from plastic or disposable cups. I'm sitting here drinking a cup of coffee that could be in a real cup, but instead it's in a disposable cup, because I can throw this away. I don't have to wash it.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 1:Paper plates, plastic cutlery, all of those things, all of that's bad for the environment. We've just became lazy.
Speaker 4:Right, yes, well agreed.
Speaker 5:Everything is such fast pace. Yes, convenience is a killer.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's the instant gratification at the end of the day. Like I want to be able to go to McDonald's and get a burger, get it quick, and then I don't care. Like I got a paper bag and a wax wrapper and you know, a cup with a straw on it, a lid and a straw, I don't care what happens to that once I throw it in the trash, choosing get it fast well, okay, valid argument, not this one, but fast and right, but yeah that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say, but most of the time I I can't complain. My orders have been right. Although went to wendy's today. Can I complain? I'm gonna complain. Went to wendy's today and I got a biggie bag. They're not five dollars anymore like six or seven yeah six dollars.
Speaker 1:I got a double stack. Asked for it. Plain was not plain, okay, whatever, no big deal. Ask for big deal. Ask for a vanilla Coke. They don't have any. Get a regular Coke. I would have gone to McDonald's if I wanted a regular Coke. Right, I only went to Wendy's because I wanted a vanilla Coke and I almost told her when she said, oh, we're out of vanilla. I almost said nevermind, I'll go to McDonald's because I really prefer a McDonald's Coke. I spent $6. I got four chicken nuggets, a burger that was wrong and a small drink that was all ice. I was like how disappointing is this?
Speaker 3:And then your fries were probably like golden.
Speaker 1:No, so the fries were eh, they were okay, but the actual fries were bad, like they had like weird black spots on them, like they were, they were okay, they need to clean or change the oil.
Speaker 4:They were okay, but they weren't great.
Speaker 1:But anyhow, say all of that to say we continue to go back to those places, don't we? Even when they screw up our menu.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I'm kind of surprised because Wendy's is really the only place I trust anymore. I know I was pretty confident I don't eat at.
Speaker 1:McDonald's, I was pretty confident.
Speaker 2:I was going to be good but I was wrong. But, fast.
Speaker 1:Typically, it is fast for me because I order on my mobile app before I go. Oh, we'll see. So when I get there, I just turn on a show on the Tesla and tell them I'm there and here they come with my food.
Speaker 2:Well, and as humans, you know, I think we're supposed to get up in the morning and our thoughts should be okay. How am I going to take care of the earth today? How am I going to take care of the earth today? How am? I going to take care of God's plan, all of those things, and we do the exact opposite. We go okay, how am I going to make money today?
Speaker 3:How am I going to make it easier on myself?
Speaker 2:All these things and we worry about the environment.
Speaker 4:Last we don't even worry about it most people yeah.
Speaker 2:And it can be a big topic in politics and things like that, but at the end of the day, you think, yeah, okay, so you want to spend billions of dollars for green energy and all these other projects, but we're still going to be lazy, we're still going to do all the things that we normally do. So what's the point?
Speaker 1:So my Tesla, just as a fun fact about it, you cannot charge it to 100% regularly. You'll wear out the batteries. So you can only you're only supposed to charge it to 80% for daily driving. If you know you're going on a trip, you charge it to 100%. Okay, makes sense. Here's the problem. There are some people who charge to 100% every day. They don't give a rat's butt. You know what I mean. And then the problem is they wear out that car. They wear out the batteries. And where do those batteries end up? In a lamp bill. Like, you can create all of the green energy stuff that you want. You can try to get people to conserve energy. Every time it gets super hot, dover sends an email or posts on facebook or whatever. Like, hey, there's nothing wrong with the grid, but we ask that you reduce your energy consumption so that we can continue to get low energy rates. Do you? You think out of a percentage? What percentage of people do you think are actually doing that in the city of Dover? 0.5?.
Speaker 3:Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe they don't care. They'll just complain when the electric bill goes up. They don't care. And that's the way it's going to be, regardless of the situation, because the flesh is going to continue to only want what the flesh wants right yep convenience yep yeah, the best way. Never mind, it wasn't nice, so I'm just not gonna say it well, you always start something.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I know, the best way to save the earth is to get rid of all the stupid people. But the problem is I probably am in that list, so here we go.
Speaker 2:Can we start with a body broker? Is that fair? Yeah, I think that's probably fair.
Speaker 1:I think that'd be a fair trade, and that's another part of the problem with the world that we're in now is that we're reproducing faster than really the world can keep up with. I saw some estimate that, like right now, there are X amount of farmers in the state of Texas and they're expected to feed X amount of people and that's going to like quadruple over the next 10 years. That's nuts to think that they're going to be responsible for feeding quadruple the number of people. And the problem is is we're going to see droughts, we're going to see like there's going to be hardship that allows those farmers to not be able to feed those people. So then we start buying produce and corn from overseas and you know whatever in order to feed america. The problem is is they can't feed their own people.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Well, not to mention, they're to be growing, so they're going to have to start building more homes and houses and that's just going to take up more land that they're not going to be able to farm from.
Speaker 2:Yep, I have to be honest, though. It's always blown my mind when I'm driving in the country. Or you see just miles of cornfields and you think how can anybody be going hungry?
Speaker 3:Well, apparently they do, because that's animal corn.
Speaker 1:But see, that's another weird thing to me. It blows my mind why are we growing animal corn? Why are we growing?
Speaker 3:Because they need food, so we can eat them.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, all right, it's a vicious cycle and I don't disagree with that. But what animal has to be fed grain? What animal has to be fed grain? What animal has to be fed grain? Because you can send a horse out to pasture and it will eat whatever A goat, a pig, a pig will literally devour a human body, like they will eat anything.
Speaker 3:Gluten-free cows and horses. Okay, right.
Speaker 1:Okay, so stop using Lysol and we won't have those issues. Am I right? I think I'm right. I think I'm right. Our incessant desire to sanitize has created what's the word that they use.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Autoimmune disorders. Absolutely, because we can't just get sick, we can't just no, it's not allowed Right Nope Again, especially after COVID. Everybody's sitting in this room. How many of us have a peanut allergy?
Speaker 4:No, no, no, my family does, but I don't.
Speaker 1:Okay, when at in the oh they're high. But are they older?
Speaker 4:or are they younger? Oh, they're older, they're older. Well, my daughter's got a peanut allergy too.
Speaker 5:Okay, she's 30s, but your brother does and he's younger, my brother's 50.
Speaker 1:But that's rare for older people to have. I mean, even 50. That's a fairly new thing. Like my kids can't take a peanut butter sandwich to school with them because they might make somebody else sick. That's nuts. They used to serve peanut butter for lunch With your chili. But the problem is is like we don't subject our kids to those types of things because it's not healthy, and then we don't. Our bodies don't know how to react when we get those things, yeah.
Speaker 3:So then in return, you're not healthy, right? Your body's not building up any defense.
Speaker 1:Right, one of the best things that we could do eat dirt for the.
Speaker 5:yes just rub dirt in it. Just rub dirt in it, don't hurt it, like shut the country down because of a virus, what, yes, I know.
Speaker 1:And I'm not like I don't want to get into COVID because that's a we were forced to close the church. I would have never closed this church, I would have never closed the doors of this building, but we were forced to. And then when I said we're going to open back up, my direct supervisor called me. He's like whoa, whoa, whoa, you're putting the cart before the horse. You haven't gotten the green light to open again. And I said, right, but I don't really care, because at this point, like the lockdown is over, there's no legal reason for me not to be gathering with my people.
Speaker 1:And so then we go into a Zoom call with our entire region, or whatever it was called back in the day and they said if you feel confident in opening, if you've done all of the things to keep your people safe, and you feel confident opening, do it. And I unmuted my microphone and I said, hey, real quick, before we move past this, what? And I said, hey, real quick, before we move past this. What I'm hearing you say is I can open my building. And he said yes, and I said OK now click I'm gone.
Speaker 1:No, I said. I said I want to be clear because my direct supervisor told me that it is not in my best interest to open. The last thing I want to be known for is being known for the guy that rocks the boat Right. Like I open my building, they don't open their building. Their people start coming here and then now everybody's mad at each other. I don't want that yeah and he trying to.
Speaker 1:Well, I never said you shouldn't open, and I'm like, okay, well, we remember it differently. But and I wasn't mad at him for it but I didn't understand it because at that point my opinion this is opinion okay, umbrella of grace, herd immunity needed to happen at some point, like we needed to get it and share it. And like people are going to die. It's unfortunate, like it is unfortunate, but people are going to die from lots of things, right, like how many people 10 years ago?
Speaker 4:how many people died of pneumonia?
Speaker 5:yeah, I don't know influenza.
Speaker 1:I mean, there was a lot of people that died and I'm not saying that like I'm not trying to diminish what it was, but I'm saying that at some point, like we were going to have to do something. We couldn't stay apart forever, yeah. We couldn't hide forever, yeah. And then when we they're like three weeks to flatten the curve and then pretty soon we're like darn near a year and we're all still hiding from each other, yeah. And then I think that's also created a certain level of laziness in the world, Like DoorDash.
Speaker 2:Yeah, count me in.
Speaker 1:I'll DoorDash my dinner any night of the week.
Speaker 5:Now Like there are some things that but I think it's even the simple things as the cold and things that our children, you know, have immunities to because they've been in the school. Yep, they've lost that.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, like my kids, like we want our kids to get sick. Now, I don't want pukey kids because nobody wants to deal with that, but I will Like I would rather that than everybody be. When somebody does get sick, it's life threatening, because we haven't ever had the cold or whatever.
Speaker 1:Do you I mean most of us in this room would remember that when one of us had chicken pox, your parents would send you to play with the other one because they want everybody to get it. So we're done with it. Right, we don't do that crap anymore. Now we're like, oh, we can't play with Jimmy because he has chicken pox. He's got hand, foot and mouth, he's got whatever.
Speaker 1:Listen, our neighbors text us today and they said hey we just wanted to let you know that two, two of us tested for COVID and the kids were over here yesterday. We're like cool Whatever, Because what are we going to do? If they're going to get it? They're going to get it. They've already been exposed, right.
Speaker 4:Can't stop it now.
Speaker 5:Can't stop feeling, although I did keep Jarvi grounded to the bedroom. Did it work? It did.
Speaker 2:I didn't get it, or maybe you did Seth and Maggie would get on me because I would go to a restaurant.
Speaker 1:But even then, not every strand tests with the COVID test anymore, because there's so many variants. Anyhow, go ahead, Nick.
Speaker 2:Seth and Maggie get mad at me when we go to a restaurant because I'll actually open the door with my hand.
Speaker 1:I'll lick the floor of a McDonald's bathroom.
Speaker 2:I don't care, yeah, because here's the thing I'm going to get sick.
Speaker 1:If I open that door, I'm probably going to get sick. Okay, if I go to my table, somebody has likely sneezed or snotted on that table, and I can tell you, at the Texas Roadhouse they don't wipe those tables properly. Right, they're not disinfect you. At the Texas Roadhouse, they don't wipe those tables properly. We know that Lysol has to sit for 10 to 15 minutes in order for it to be effective and I can tell you they're not doing that.
Speaker 3:And also, it was a major birth control method apparently.
Speaker 1:Didn't work, just made people sick.
Speaker 2:Very sick. Lysol was a birth control method.
Speaker 5:Oh, that does not go there. I don't even want to know.
Speaker 1:When birth control wasn't readily available in the United States before the pill. I'm going to try to PG this so everybody who's listening, don't freak out. So it wasn't readily available. Lysol would encourage women to use it internally after intercourse in order to kill the germs, as they would call it, and instead it was just making them sick and causing cancer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say like it was making them sick, sick.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, deathly. So there you go Wow. That's another Sid podcast. That's.
Speaker 3:Sid's fault no one's.
Speaker 2:Sid's fault. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 5:I seen the latest invention Well, it's probably been around. I seen the latest invention Well, it's probably been around. I just happened to see it. We were down in Gatlinburg and this restaurant had it like a kick plate a little thing that came out on the door Grab it with your foot and pull it. Yeah, yeah. And then there was one where you could just shut it too. I mean, push it open, yep. That way you weren't having to touch the bathroom door.
Speaker 1:Apparently, you don't shop at Target.
Speaker 5:Evidently I don't.
Speaker 1:Because at Target their door handles are hooked so you can grab it with your arm to pull it open and then when you have to go out it, if you have to pull it in, it's got a kick plate on the bottom that's jagged so you can grab it with your foot and pull it open.
Speaker 1:Now McDonald's does one better. You ever been in a restroom at McDonald's? When you go out, the pull handle has a hand sanitizer in it. So when you grab the handle, you squeeze hand sanitizer in, pull it open and rub on your way out.
Speaker 5:I have never noticed. I don't go to McDonald's. See, I do.
Speaker 1:I eat McDonald's probably four times a week. That's how I care for the environment.
Speaker 5:No, yeah, you sure you got no cows.
Speaker 1:I don't care, they could be buying parts from body brokers for all I know. I just know it's yummy Red meat huh, yeah right. Ain't no different than going to the.
Speaker 2:Chinese restaurant. I think it's almost been a year since I ate McDonald's, because the last cheeseburger I got was I don't know.
Speaker 1:Who was it that started doing? I think it was mcdonald's. They did the fresh meat instead of the pre-cooked patties. For a short while they did it and every time I would get one of those because they were trying to match what wendy's was doing. Every time I'd get one. It'd be raw in the middle. I'd still eat it. Just to be clear, we had italian sausages the other night for dinner and, uh, I took a bite into it and I said to Alyssa these ain't done. And she's like, oh, we'll give it back and I'll put it back in the crock pot. I'm like, no, you won't.
Speaker 5:Now see, I like my hamburgs medium rare.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like my steak to still moo Like I want a hoof to still be kicking on the back of that thing. If it's not likely that I'll choke on it if it's still a little bit raw. I used to go well done.
Speaker 2:I've scaled back to medium well, but it's still got to be.
Speaker 1:Well done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm medium now.
Speaker 1:That's like shoe leather dude.
Speaker 2:I don't care, it's just, I can't handle any. There cannot be any sign of blood.
Speaker 4:I want mine seared, and that's about it. Mine can be baked. I don't want any juices on my plate.
Speaker 1:Now, if I get fries in a steak like if I go to Texas Roadhouse and I get steak fries I have to separate those, because when you cut it and it starts to make the plate yeah, I don't want my fries to get soggy, right, so I have to scrape those off.
Speaker 5:Yeah, oh, I want to dip them.
Speaker 1:Well, that's fine, but I don't want them to sit there and get soggy. The bottom layer is wasted then.
Speaker 2:Before the Tinwood Tavern burned down, we went there for one of our Christmas parties and I got a cheeseburger. Simple enough, right, I get it. I pick up the bun, flip the bun over the bottom of the bun.
Speaker 1:Over the bottom of the bun is completely red.
Speaker 2:Ah, yummy it's soaked through with blood.
Speaker 1:I'm like yummy that's my kind of burger man and I want a little piece.
Speaker 3:I want some cheese on that right, like I want.
Speaker 1:I want that to just be oh yeah, yep nope that's how I care for the environment. I eat the cows before they're fully dead. I go out and catch my own steak. I just jump on the back of the cow and gnaw on its back end.
Speaker 3:He's trying to kick you off. Yeah, right, right.
Speaker 1:I guess digging into verses for this made me think, yeah, maybe I should be recycling more. But the problem is you can do so much when you recycle. But here's the problem with recycling for me and I wish everybody would, and my wife she does it very well. But you're supposed to rinse out your milk jug before you put it in the bin? You're supposed to rinse out your soda cans before you put them in. Ain't nobody got time for that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Most people aren't doing that Right.
Speaker 1:So most of what's being recycled is not being Correct, and so I'm told by somebody who works at the landfill that it all goes to the same place.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That there's no difference, so why do I have to separate it? Why don't you just take it and do your thing?
Speaker 2:You need to get that for one of your soundbites.
Speaker 1:What Ain't nobody got? Time for that Ain't nobody got time for that.
Speaker 4:We should do that?
Speaker 1:Ain, we should do that. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Speaker 3:Sounded like Shrek. You mean green pie machine. I stick with you.
Speaker 1:Sins watch Shrek far too many times.
Speaker 3:Well, that, and Chase saying it to Cooper all the time.
Speaker 2:Oh geez, I'm thinking about that lady because she says I woke up to go get a cold pop. I'm like, wait a minute, you woke up to go get a cold pop. I'm like, wait a minute, you woke up to go get a pop. Well, I, do.
Speaker 3:That was the only reason she woke up.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't anymore, can I tell you just as a again me doing my part for the environment, I have not. We don't buy soda at the house anymore. I don't drink coke at home. I drink it whenever I go out, like today I had one um. I mean, I wasn't happy with it, but I had it, uh, but I don't buy them for the house anymore, so there, I don't have to. I'm not wasting aluminum anymore.
Speaker 1:I'm not sending them to the landfill dirty and you're cutting back on it yeah, yeah, oh yeah, because, like I haven't had, I had my one today, but remember before I was drinking a six-pack a day. Have you known why you cut back?
Speaker 4:on them Because Elvis suits don't fit Yep.
Speaker 1:Starting to get this little thing right here.
Speaker 4:Well, they say you'll drop six, seven pounds a year.
Speaker 5:Yeah, If you cut it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to go on Ozempic. Yeah, I'm just going to figure $200 a month.
Speaker 5:Month I can hook you up what's uh, what's the generic?
Speaker 1:uh, tri-sepateid that's not that's the manjaro that's not the word that I'm looking for uh, it's the s yeah, let uh. I just like saying it. I don't use those generic names, they're too hard I just like saying it well, you don't use those generic names, they're too hard. I just like saying it.
Speaker 3:Well, you must not like it too much. Yeah, you can't remember what?
Speaker 1:it is Semiglutide.
Speaker 4:Semiglutide. There you go, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just like saying the word semiglutide, semiglutide. Yeah, it's just fun. I also think my ketoacidosis is is flaring up.
Speaker 3:I almost texted you yesterday asking if you had something, because there was an ad that came up.
Speaker 1:Probably do.
Speaker 3:I was just going to be like, hey, do you have this?
Speaker 1:Mesothelioma. It's so stupid it is. I wish you guys could live in my head for a day. You would be so frightened.
Speaker 4:I work with you it scares me.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I'll be sitting in my office and I'll just blurt something out and everybody, like you, can hear the office get quiet, because we all have our own separate offices, but like there's a common space in the middle and you can hear if I'm talking in my office, I say it loud, you can hear it in all the offices and so I'll say something really loud. But it's just a random thought that came into my head and it gets quiet and nobody responds. That came into my head and it gets quiet and nobody responds. I'm like, alright, not for this crowd, do that crap all the time.
Speaker 4:All the time.
Speaker 1:Some of that useless knowledge that you have. Honestly, it's the ADHD, it's an impulse control. I just don't have the ability to retain the thought without saying it out loud.
Speaker 3:So you gotta blurt it out. Yeah, I just say it.
Speaker 1:I don't care if anybody responds or not, I just need it out of my head. I just need it to live in the world. Semi-glutide I'm going to write a song about it. What rhymes with semi-glutide? Oh Lord.
Speaker 3:Let us know, Lord
Speaker 5:save us. I think, I got that from the gluteus maximus. Just have AI write you a song?
Speaker 1:Oh, let's do that while I'm sitting here. That's why I'm sitting here. Chat GPT.
Speaker 2:You've struck my curiosity, write me a song about.
Speaker 3:This is going gonna be bad.
Speaker 1:I didn't smell semi-glutide right, which of course I would have no idea how to spell that to begin with.
Speaker 2:So well, if AI is that smart, you should know oh, lord oh, I spelled it right according to you.
Speaker 1:You spelled it right.
Speaker 4:According to you, you spelled it right.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go, you ready, it's already populated. Two verses, a chorus I can't think. I don't know the rhythm. Oh, rap it, okay. Yeah, do you think for a second that this dude can rap? Okay, I think you can here it is Woke up this morning Feeling kind of slow, took a little shot. Now I'm ready to go. It's a tiny dose but it's making me feel right. Semiclutides got me through the night.
Speaker 1:This is not a joke. This is really happening. Craving for the sweets, but I'm stepping back. This little miracle's got me on track.
Speaker 1:This is amazing Weight's coming off. My heart's feeling light. I'm taking control. I'm taking the fight. This is amazing. Oh, senna Glutide, you're the one I trust Helping me to shed this weight. It's a must, this is not a joke. Keep me feeling full. No more hunger fights. With you by my side, I'm taking back my life. That's verse one and the chorus, and we've got three verses. There's even a bridge. There's even a bridge. This is amazing. Oh, and there's an outro too.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get Nicki Minaj to record this. I'm going to make a bunch of money. I'm going to get Nicki Minaj to record this. I'm going to make a bunch of money. My phone is like dude, your heart rate's really high. You got to stop. Can you believe?
Speaker 3:that just happened.
Speaker 1:Within like three seconds too. It just wrote me a whole song, Popped it right up.
Speaker 5:Yep, that's scary, I know.
Speaker 1:What are you going? Yep, that's scary. I know what are you going to do. It's awesome. I filter everything through ChatGPT. If I'm writing a professional email that I want to make sure the thoughts are coherent and that it's stacked properly and that I hit all of my bullet points, absolutely, I copy and paste it and run it through ChatGPT. Hey, make sure that this email is I. I have a series of filters that I run. Dude, that thing just pops it back out. It's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was listing some stuff on eBay, some baseball cards.
Speaker 1:AI does it all.
Speaker 5:AI will do your description for you I declined.
Speaker 1:Not me. I'll do it, not me, I just can't.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love it. I thought about it, I did. I had to fight the urge not to do it.
Speaker 3:Did you test it? Did you test like it's so much better than I am?
Speaker 2:No, no, I didn't even test it. I'm just like no, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1:I'm not thinking to that level. So much better than I am.
Speaker 3:Then there'd be no turning back after that.
Speaker 1:If I do it once, yep, once you've done it once you've done it well, I think.
Speaker 3:As far as the environment, I was just thinking like littering and, yeah, that's my big one.
Speaker 2:I live in the world you. There's not a whole lot of things you can control, but that you can yeah, especially like when I go look for beach glass, like on lake erie.
Speaker 3:It's terrible. I mean I went to euclid beach and you couldn't. I mean I was scared to even walk, like there were needles like plastic everywhere. Now there are certain other beaches that don't look like that, but regardless, you're still going to find plastic and you think, oh, that's a piece of beachcloth. No, it's plastic, just like so much.
Speaker 1:I think that clean water is probably one of the things that we have to get better at, and that's because there's like there's no, you don't need to have any science behind that having plastics in the water. You see those sea turtles that are stuck inside of those little pop can thingy. You know what I mean. Like that stuff is real, you can.
Speaker 1:There's physical evidence of that that you can see very obviously, and I saw that they are creating these nets that they can run across streams and rivers that will catch the trash before it makes it to the ocean. And it's like three nets and what happens is the first net has really wide holes so it collects larger pieces that then they can just pull out. Then the next one gets slightly smaller and that one they use. They have to have like a crane or something, come in with a bucket and scoop it out. And then the last one is super fine and so it's catching all of the little things and then they have to I don't know if they like pull the net up from the bottom, but they like picks it all up and then hauls it off.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I've seen videos on that.
Speaker 1:It's really fascinating, but that's the stuff that, like, I feel like, if we invest, generate clean energy.
Speaker 3:Well, do you guys know, like the area off of California, that there's a documentary about it? There's just like this huge, I mean I think it's like a two mile radius, this area in the ocean, that's just garbage, Garbage and like there's no, like there's no resolution.
Speaker 1:Well, I saw that they were starting to use garbage barges, so like it's, two barges again with, like the nets, and then they would just on either side of those trash piles and they would just scoop it up. The problem is is, then they bring it out of the water. What do you do with it? You bury it in the ground, which is no better for the environment. Yeah, so really, I mean, if we want to fix it, stop using plastic altogether. But good luck. Yeah, this is not going to happen. It's not realistic.
Speaker 1:No, it's not, and what's going to happen is we're going to end up. How many of you have seen WALL-E? That's what it's going to be. We're all going to have to evacuate Earth and we're going to live on a spaceship. We're going to be fat and lazy. We're going to rely on somebody else to care for us because We've got Ozempic We've got. Ozempic yeah.
Speaker 3:But, the thing is no more cankles for us.
Speaker 1:Your body becomes what's the like, you get used to it and you have to like keep upping your dosage in order to yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like immune. Yes.
Speaker 2:I don't know that it's immune. A tolerance.
Speaker 1:There you go, yeah yeah, so like if you're doing 10 cc's and that's dropping weight for you, like in a week you lose a pound or three pounds or whatever. You can't do that forever. You eventually have to change that and go to 15 to 20, to 30 to 50 and pretty soon you're doing full syringes and it's a hundred dollars a shot rather than a hundred dollars a month you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Well, and at that point, like, how much is it even healthy? Well, and that's what they said.
Speaker 1:I think the problem is now with some of those, and I don't again, not a doctor- uh don't take this as medical advice, but that at some point, um, they don't know the long-term ramifications for using it as a weight loss drug and that, like it could hurt your liver. It can hurt, like there's lots of other things that it, and to come off of it is even harder than so lots of like things.
Speaker 3:Things going on.
Speaker 1:But I think that's with any medicine, right Like you don't know long-term effects until somebody has taken it long enough to know those effects, and then you find out that Well, sometimes those effects are worse than like the Lysol.
Speaker 1:Right, like the Lysol. But have you ever heard of, like, people who have restless leg syndrome? That's a real thing and I'm not trying to like. But you take the medicine for it and you end up with sweaty palms and diarrhea rather than just having your legs feel like they're jittery, like there's just so many weird can cause suicidal thoughts. Why would I take this? And it's never made sense to me. That, like some, like mood stabilizers and drugs for mental health cause suicidal thoughts, seems counterintuitive, right, but there's, and you don't know until somebody is taking it whether or not that's the case. Right. My dad is diabetic and they gave him a medicine to help with, to help control it. And he called me one day and he's like, hey, he's like I'm kind of worried. I'm like why? He's like I can't see anything. He's like my vision is completely blurry. So he went to the eye doctor and got a new pair of glasses because he thought that, like his eyes were just going back, like he was. I think he was concerned that he was going blind.
Speaker 4:It turned out it was the freaking pill he was on Right Side effect of the medicine.
Speaker 1:So he stops taking the medicine, his vision comes back. He's got a pair of glasses he can't use. It's not funny, but it's like that weird. Yeah, like you don't know until you're taking it, but you don't always know that that's a side effect either.
Speaker 3:So well, and it's. I just listened to a podcast of the 14 year old girl that murdered her mom back in march of this year. She's always got the weird ones um, but she was um kind of having suicidal you know thoughts anyway, and they put her on a mood stabilizer. And what was I just going? What? What were you just talking about? I just blanked out, um, what were you just saying?
Speaker 1:uh, talking about mood stabilizers and with your dad, oh, the vision, the side effect, the side effect, the side effects.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, and just that. They, you know, they were basically like, I guarantee you, they put her on a mood stabilizer and there wasn't any notes that she was even being checked, like a week after, three weeks after, because I think it was a month after then she snapped and like killed her mom.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but once again this goes back to our mental health and all of this. You know they put these people. They're in the hospital. They got suicide ideations, they put them in the hospital. They put them on a new med. Send them home in four days. They don't keep them in there long enough to see if the meds work or not. Let alone did we set them up with counseling or a follow up appointment.
Speaker 3:Follow up things.
Speaker 1:And now here's the thing you can't be responsible for those people. You set up the follow-up appointment. They never show up, Right right. You can't be responsible for that, but the fact that we likely have done nothing is quite embarrassing to me yeah. Like that's the sad part really, and I see that a lot. I'm sure.
Speaker 5:That's my first thing. They Columbus and the air and air. You know, and okay that you're sending them home, You're going to send them up with their PCP, but did you get them established with, you know, a psychiatrist? Or a psychologist in this area. Well, no, we thought you could do that. No, because for a PCP to make a referral, you're talking three months for them to get in. If you make that referral, you can at least get them in within two weeks.
Speaker 3:And even that two weeks is wild for mental health. Exactly Two weeks can feel like hell when it comes to mental health for the person and the family members.
Speaker 1:That was weird. Our last episode wasn't published, but 10 people listened to it. It's weird.
Speaker 5:What do you?
Speaker 1:mean it wasn't published. When I I clicked on it, it said that it hadn't been published, so I but 10 people have downloaded it well, I listened to it well, that's what I was gonna say, so I'm wondering if it just like you had to have the link to listen to well.
Speaker 3:I found it on spotify. What was our last episode with the?
Speaker 1:miracles come true in your life oh because tanya had messaged me and said that she hadn't seen us on Apple Podcasts for a couple of weeks, which one week we weren't here, but that may be why she couldn't find it. It may not have pushed her.
Speaker 2:I think Margie said she couldn't find it on Spotify.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, that's weird, that's probably my fault.
Speaker 4:Because she doesn't like every four or five minutes yeah it's that's because it's that's through a browser.
Speaker 1:It's not a right like the that's how patreon is too have you ever oh really for me it is, it's because it's like a youtube video.
Speaker 3:So yeah yeah okay anywho, anywho.
Speaker 1:See, that's that Like I did it twice. That's that weird thing in my head that I cannot control. I'll catch myself doing that stuff. It drives me nuts after I realize that I've done it.
Speaker 4:Maybe you need another Red Bull.
Speaker 1:I don't drink Red Bull, roger. Could you imagine my heart would explode. My body couldn't handle that. Everybody can drink that stuff. Smell like cat pee. Chase drinks a small one every morning. Heart would explode, my body couldn't handle that?
Speaker 4:say everybody can drink that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, chase drinks smells like cat pee chase drinks a small one every morning, but it's good for him. It's the sugar. I don't know how he but he's not a coffee drinker, so he needs something yeah yeah, everybody's got, everybody's got something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mine used to be a large mcdonald's coke on my way to work every morning when it was a dollar. I won't't pay $1.29 for it. That's stupid.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you get more ice. Yeah, right, right. Yes, I would pay seriously every morning Light ice. You'd have to order light ice.
Speaker 1:Every morning I'd swing through the drive-thru and I would get myself a large Coke. And that was just my life. Just living on large Coke and that's what I would have for lunch. That would be my lunch. It would be a liquid lunch. Just grab a large Coke.
Speaker 5:I like my Pepsi, but I limit it to. I buy one at work at lunchtime.
Speaker 1:See, that's mean, that's like a taste. A can to me is worthless. That's a taste. My wife, she'll get a can and it'll last her all day.
Speaker 2:That's three drinks for me. Sometimes I can't even finish a can. What, yeah, how.
Speaker 1:Seriously, it's three drinks for me.
Speaker 5:And I get yelled at all the time because I don't finish it. Can I buy the bottle? What is it? 20-ounce bottle, no.
Speaker 2:And I can make it last two days. No, it's flat, that's gross. Throw it away pretty quick, but just drinking it out of the can. I always leave some in there and Margie's always like you didn't finish it.
Speaker 1:I had a bad habit when I was buying it at the house, which is really why I stopped buying it is I would open one and I would drink it and then I'd sit it down somewhere and I'd forget where it was at, so I'd go get another one, and then I'd have like four cans my wife would collect.
Speaker 5:I'd have one lit in the living room. I'd go in the kitchen like where's my cigarettes?
Speaker 1:Light another one, I'd go back in the living room. Now I got them both there, yeah.
Speaker 3:Now she's got four lit in the house and it's a wonder she has a house.
Speaker 5:It was bad.
Speaker 1:You got to remember you smoke what? Three packs a day. Oh my lord, at my highest height I was only a half a pack a day. Cheap. I can't imagine smoking three packs a day. The cost that's $15 a day back in the day at $5 a pack.
Speaker 2:I don't want to talk about littering. Yeah, cigarette butts everywhere.
Speaker 1:That has to be it, but if you've ever seen Biodome Again for Christians probably shouldn't watch it. With Pauly Shore, remember they saved the Biodome With the cigarette filters.
Speaker 2:I don't remember that part. It's been a long time.
Speaker 1:You know another movie I just watched the other day. Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. Oh my god, do you remember that movie?
Speaker 4:It was a fantastic movie I just watched the other day.
Speaker 1:Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. Oh my God, do you remember that movie? Yeah, what.
Speaker 4:It was a fantastic movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he stuffed the babysitter in a trunk, dropped her off at the funeral home.
Speaker 3:It sounds like Cat in the Hat when they stuffed the old lady in the trunk.
Speaker 2:Kind of what this was like, like Weekend at Bernie's.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah. That was hilarious how did they make two of those right? Yeah, the first one wasn't all that great, yet we managed to make a second one and, although just for those of us who are in the right age group, our powers combined. I am Captain Planet. Do you remember that show? Like that was the show when we were growing up. You don't remember Captain Planet? Ask, ask Chase, guaranteed he remembers Captain.
Speaker 3:I was outside playing. I was not watching TV.
Speaker 1:Well, saturday morning cartoons were all we were like. Captain Planet. I was outside playing, I was not watching TV. Saturday morning cartoons were all we were like. Captain Planet was on and they each had their own special like individual power, but it was all about saving the planet. It didn't work.
Speaker 3:None of us like but you're saying you're Captain Planet.
Speaker 1:No, that was the slogan from the show it's our powers combined, I am Captain Planet.
Speaker 3:That was the slogan from the show Okay, okay okay, it's our powers combined.
Speaker 2:I am Captain Planet. Oh, okay, that was the slogan from the show, sorry. Well, don't say it didn't work, though. I mean I'm sure up here it's stuck with us to where, like yeah, we're not going to throw our candy bar wrapper out the window. There's certain things we're just not going to do.
Speaker 4:Turn the light off when you leave the room.
Speaker 1:Do you think that worked?
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to let you believe that I think it was a building block.
Speaker 3:I'm going to let you believe that it could be certain, like how we're like different learners, you know, like your visual. I'm not disagreeing with that. Maybe it just made us aware.
Speaker 1:I'm not disagreeing with that. All I'm saying is that, like all it was in my opinion growing up, having watched, it was competition for He-Man. All it was in my opinion growing up, having watched it was competition for He-Man, which it could never measure up because He-Man was always better, like that, flat out. He-man was always good, but that was like comparing WWF and WCW. There was no comparison, right, right. So my point is that, while we got some of that, it was really more about beating up bad guys. They were just like dumping toxic chemicals into the ocean.
Speaker 2:But you know what? He-man always had a good message at the end.
Speaker 1:GI Joe always had a good message at the end.
Speaker 2:So, like I said, building blocks. So maybe more people need to watch what these kids are watching now. They don't get any kind of guidance.
Speaker 1:My kids are watching Avatar.
Speaker 2:I was telling my wife the other day day. I said it's a shame there's no more sitcoms anymore, because even those sitcoms they always had like a lesson yeah, there was always a close to the end of the show with some sentimental moment you don't get that anymore.
Speaker 1:Do you remember TGIF? I think it was on ABC, so you had Step by Step Family Matters Hanging with Mr Cooper. Hanging with Mr Cooper. There was another show that was always really popular on there too, but I can't remember what it is.
Speaker 4:Shit Hangs oh.
Speaker 1:Boy Meets World, like so many of those shows in the 90s that were like Full House, full House that had lessons in all of them and now it's TV, is entertainment. Like we want blood, guts and gore. We want as much violence and vulgar language as we can get because we've become desensitized to the everyday life we live, that we don't care anymore.
Speaker 4:Now we want to see violence. Does everybody live the same type of life? No, so then you know those sitcoms, they could help someone.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but they don't make them anymore and even if you were to watch the reruns, they're impossible to find. And also, again, because we can binge watch anything in the world, you can be done with the whole series of Family Matters in a weekend's time.
Speaker 2:We're watching Frasier right now.
Speaker 1:So I was never a big Frasier fan Never really. Seinfeld I could watch a million times over.
Speaker 4:but Frasier, I just never. I like George.
Speaker 1:I like Cheers. I watched all of Cheers.
Speaker 4:Norm. You know, at one time I felt like Norm, always at the bar.
Speaker 1:Well, I was going to say I kind of feel like Norm, because when I go somewhere everybody knows me, my wife's like I don't even want to go in the store with you and you could be.
Speaker 1:Uh, cliff, he was a mailman although what body part as a side note no cliff, never brought that cliff I think had a drinking problem do you remember the one where they had the hat and, uh, I don't remember the other guy that was in it, but cliff like he, they were making a bet on whether or not they could drink the drink under the hat without picking up the hat okay, well if you ever find that one, it's a good one. That was one of my favorites.
Speaker 3:Tricks him into getting two shots for nothing pretty funny I thought, when you said you feel like norm, I thought you meant normal, no, no.
Speaker 1:Ain't never felt normal a day in my life.
Speaker 3:Nope, not on this podcast. Nope, nope.
Speaker 4:Nope, you can't be normal and sit in this room.
Speaker 1:No, agreed, impossible Agreed. Anything else? Nope, it's only been an hour and 20 minutes, guys. Oh, we're slacking.
Speaker 4:I know Right, it's a short one.
Speaker 1:They can skip through the first. What 20 minutes of this 25 probably? Yeah, 25 minutes and really not miss anything.
Speaker 5:I don't think we really touched a whole lot on this subject.
Speaker 4:Well, we did in a roundabout way, I guess.
Speaker 3:Well, luckily, we answered the question without answering the question subject that has very easy answers yeah, but very, very complex too you know and no follow through with them there's not going to be a whole lot of agreement on it.
Speaker 1:There are some people who think that we could do everything in our power to save the planet. You know, when you start buying into uh, you know our country is paying into what's, that they have some climate change group, that we're sending billions of dollars over there to buy into this group, but we're really not seeing any results. We're doing a lot of research. Yep, it's windy out, like I can do that on my own, but again, that's my opinion and I don't really see how it's super fruitful for the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah well I mean, it's just one of those things where I'm sure, when we invented the smokestack and and people went man, should we really be doing this? But people are like, no, we're gonna do it yeah, we're doing it anyway, it's the only way we're gonna make a living. It's you know, do you?
Speaker 1:Do you think there were people that were saying should we really be doing this?
Speaker 2:I hope See my thought is they were like no, because they didn't know. I don't think at that time you don't think people knew no, because they were thinking, oh man, this is, Look at that black smoke rolling through.
Speaker 1:Well, but you don't realize. Back then they didn't realize the vastness of the universe or the solar, they didn't fully understand.
Speaker 3:They didn't understand how air.
Speaker 1:Right, air pollution and things like that. That didn't come along until much later. Think about the Industrial Revolution. When they were that's what I'm saying they weren't thinking about. I wouldn't think that they were thinking you might have had that handful of people who were adamantly opposed to it. But where are they now? Buried under a train track somewhere, because choo-choo.
Speaker 2:A lot of the people that were planted back as a tree that were being employed to work in those places were getting paid very low wages and nobody wanted to do those jobs because of like probably getting sick and dying.
Speaker 1:But it's the same with mining coal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like there were people dying every day. They'd come out with black lung because they'd be in there.
Speaker 2:But did anybody say you know, okay, we're going to quit doing that? No, it's just not.
Speaker 1:No, no, they were like it's making money.
Speaker 3:They're like finally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's interesting, though, is the people who mined the coal never made money. They went into the job poor, came out of the job poor.
Speaker 2:The people that actually did the work were all poor.
Speaker 4:Yowed everything to the company store.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yep, I'm not going to sing it.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1:Okay, not falling for it. I know you're trapped. I know you're trapped. I know you're trapped.
Speaker 3:Okay, anything else, my phone's telling me it's bedtime. Well, you still have a visit tonight.
Speaker 1:I know, but I'm just saying that my phone's like hey, it's 735. You should be winding down for bed Winding down. I can't believe. My wife outed me at church last Sunday about that. I was like that was rude. So I've got my phone set up to my watch and so it knows when my normal bedtime isn't like. So, at 7 15 every night my watch goes hey, it's almost bedtime, you should start winding down, turn off your electronics, blah, blah, blah, because I go to bed at eight o'clock. So I was talking about sometimes us old people have to get out of the way and she's like yeah, talk about old, go to bed at eight o'clock.
Speaker 3:So it's fine. It's funny. My friend, same thing with her. Like if I text and I normally don't get back with someone until like when I text you guys about things, it's normally 9 30 or something I'm same with everyone and I'll text her at like 8, 20 and it's like notifications are silenced. However, she works monday through thursday 7 am to 6 pm, so she's got long long hours, easy hours. Well, and also she wakes up at 4.30 and runs.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I don't do that.
Speaker 4:That's her problem.
Speaker 1:I wake up at 5. I run my mouth, but I do get up early yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm going to work at 5.30.
Speaker 1:That early morning time, that's my devotion time, that's my me time. I get up and I check any work stuff from the night before that needs to be dealt with before I ever get in the car and leave for work. Because I have to get that done before I get in the car, because then Beth calls me. Beth don't call because he don't answer 45-minute drive.
Speaker 4:You text him, don't you?
Speaker 1:I didn't work today. That's why I didn't take your call. I was having internet installed at the. Denison Gazebo with the tech, and then, frankly, until I saw your face, forgot you had even called me.
Speaker 5:Well, I'm the same way. I think you need to get you uh libby on your phone instead of listening to podcast.
Speaker 3:Libby the audiobooks yeah, I can't. It doesn't keep my attention, I can't. And maybe if I wasn't like multitasking and delivering mail and looking out of three different like, but I I have to really focus when they're reading and I can't do that yeah, because a podcast is conversational and like I can find myself invested in the conversation.
Speaker 1:An audio book it's very monotonous.
Speaker 3:I wish I could I really do, but I can't.
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, this last one I listened to. Actually it was, it's almost, because it's just two guys talking about the documentary Under the Overpass there are two college boys that went to, took four months and lived as homeless. Oh no, thank you. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1:If you want an audio book that you can listen to. Sid, by the way.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Jeanette McCurdy. I'm glad my mom is dead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know I need to. It is amazing, so good it's been on my to-do list. I have a thing with that.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you it's a great book. Yeah, I'll give you my Audible login and you can listen to it on my account Perfect.
Speaker 4:That way, you don't have to buy it.
Speaker 5:Yeah Well.
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 5:That's it, that's it.
Speaker 1:That's the end of the show. All right, who wants?
Speaker 2:to pray tonight. No, nobody, nick, it's your turn tonight. Lord, thank you for bringing us here together tonight. We just pray that, no matter what topic that we're discussing as much of a good time as we have with each other and enjoying each other's company, having plenty of laughs, that we do focus on the subject, that we do care about what we're trying to bring to other people, and even it's when a difficult topic like this talking about the environment, because we don't always know the answers and we always may feel like it's beyond our control, but always just help each and every one of us, do as much as we can to take care of the planet that you've made for us, to do the right things and to always just be mindful of the fact that this is the only home you've gave us.
Speaker 2:So I just pray all these things in your precious name. I pray that everybody gets home safe and I pray that we get to come back here next week, amen.
Speaker 4:Amen.
